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Fear Tactics Dominate Pot Debate too

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Submitted by ecoscott on

Hey Selecter:

I like your article and agree with your premise- legalizing marijana would be good for taxes, get a lot of wrongly imprisoned people out and keep many more from going and let the police focus on many more important issues.

I do want to challenge two statements, though: "Right now most weed is grown in the United States for personal use and friend networks and that weed is not measureable."

While that does happen, legally in some places, there is plenty of illegally grown pot grown in very large amounts in the U.S., certainly in California.

"Once the drugs are here they are sold on the street by Mexican and black gangs."

I suggest dropping the race reference- every race sells pot.

There is an awesome organization called Oaksterdam in Oakland, California that does classes and legal advising around growing and using marijuana and activism/advocacy for legalization.

Check them out: http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/

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Submitted by selecter on

You are right that all races sell pot, but its the structure in which they sell it. Mexican gangs (Nortenos and Sudenos) pretty much run California and its prisons. Black gangs are also present but lack the numbers and connections to 'run' things. I meant it as a business organization more than a racial thing, but noted...

Most pot IS grown in the US (Emerald Triangle, Humboldt, Sonoma and Mendocino Counties), but importing it is another arm of the illegal gang cartels that operate out of Central America bringing in lots of cheap weed. Maybe they would be able to legally import it, legitimizing their cartels? Who knows to that end, guess we'd have to work out import laws.

Thanks for the link!

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Submitted by ecoscott on

Got it- I hear you on gangs running things in general- especially with prisons.

And it would be interesting to see cartel and other sources become legitimate importers of legal marijana into the U.S. Even MORE of a tax reason to do it!

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Submitted by Anonymous on

Replace 'pot' with 'illegal drug' and the chart is the same. 

Heck, why even limited to drugs?  Extend it to any currently illegal activity that involves consenting adults and the picture is still the same.

I realize we need to start somewhere but let's not forget all the other stuff that people are going to do that is currently illegal.

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Submitted by Anonymous on

"most weed is grown in the United States ... and that weed is not measureable"

This belies the fact that marijuana is the number one cash crop in several states.

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Submitted by Anonymous on

One more thing to add to the list of those that don't want this to happen. That is the private prison owners, which is very often a Congressman or Senator. A fun fact, every prisoner on a Federal crime gets a prison $6000 per month. That is why the prisons are overpopulated. And our leaders are the ones profiting from it. They don't want anything to break their on the side piggy banks.

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Submitted by Anonymous on

An additional one more thing; yes it would be great if all those rotting in prison, for minor weed related offenses, would be released if marijuana were legalized (more correctly decriminalized).  But that is just an outlandish dream, those people are in jail because they broke the law, it does not matter how ridiculous that law is but it was still broken.  To think that 10s of thousands of people would be released from prisons because the laws have changed is naive to say the least.  If that were the case then my state needs to return my money for that ticket I got in a construction zone because its not a construction zone anymore.  If you're going to make an argument to legalize pot first off don't call it "legalized" there is no place where it is legal there are only places where it is decriminalized. The difference being there are still some restrictions to a decriminalized substance, such as a carrying weight restriction or use in public restrictions (like drunk in public).  Second, don't sound like a stupid pot-head and say something like all these people who are in jail will get out once the laws change...I'm going to go get high now, good night!

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Submitted by Anonymous on

I know this guy who used to make fun of me for smoking pot.  He'd call me a dumb stoner and feel better than me because he didn't use illegal drugs. Then he side-swiped 8 cars on his way home from the bars and tried to talk his way out of a DUI covered in blood and vomit.  True story. I know about 6 guys that got DUIs. Not me though, just very stoned.

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Submitted by Anonymous on

The prison system reputedly makes money on the difference between taxpayer dollars, and money spent on inmates. There's also a degree of shareholder interest (political nepotism) which means some politicians *won't* want to fix this any time soon.

Unless they get a cut of the taxes as a pay increase.

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